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9/11 : Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Was Waterboarded 183 Times In One Month

Posted by musliminsuffer on April 20, 2009

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9/11 : Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Was Waterboarded 183 Times In One Month

By Justin Gardner | Related entries in History, Torture, Transparency

That means he was made to feel as if he were drowning an average of 6 times and day for 30 straight days.

Kind of puts that whole ticking clock scenario to rest.

From Emptywheel:

I’ve put this detail in a series of posts, but it really deserves a full post. According to the May 30, 2005 Bradbury memo, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded 183 times in March 2003 and Abu Zubaydah was waterboarded 83 times in August 2002.
On page 37 of the OLC memo, in a passage discussing the differences between SERE techniques and the torture used with detainees, the memo explains:The CIA used the waterboard “at least 83 times during August 2002” in the interrogation of Zubaydah. IG Report at 90, and 183 times during March 2003 in the interrogation of KSM, see id. at 91.

Note, the information comes from the CIA IG report which, in the case of Abu Zubaydah, is based on having viewed the torture tapes as well as other materials. So this is presumably a number that was once backed up by video evidence.

Again, the point isn’t whether or not Mohammed is a bad man. There’s no doubt he is. The point is that we can’t allow ourselves to act just as despicable as him. I mean, Bush said they hate our freedoms, right? Well what happens when we compromise our values to mirror theirs? Doesn’t that make us less free?

Michael Reynolds had this thought over at a previous post…

There’s a price to be paid for living in a civilization as opposed to living in the jungle. We minimize many risks, but we assume some others. We may have to swallow hard at times, but it’s the only way to have a civilization. Civilization, like freedom itself, isn’t free.

Well said.

source: http://donklephant.com/2009/04/18/khalid-sheikh-mohammed-was-waterboarded-183-times-in-one-month/

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9/11 : Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Was Waterboarded 183 Times in One Month

Posted by musliminsuffer on April 20, 2009

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In the Name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful

=== News Update ===

9/11 : Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Was Waterboarded 183 Times in One Month

By: emptywheel Saturday April 18, 2009 11:57 am

I’ve put this detail in a series of posts, but it really deserves a full post. According to the May 30, 2005 Bradbury memo, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded 183 times in March 2003 and Abu Zubaydah was waterboarded 83 times in August 2002.

On page 37 of the OLC memo, in a passage discussing the differences between SERE techniques and the torture used with detainees, the memo explains:

The CIA used the waterboard “at least 83 times during August 2002” in the interrogation of Zubaydah. IG Report at 90, and 183 times during March 2003 in the interrogation of KSM, see id. at 91.

Note, the information comes from the CIA IG report which, in the case of Abu Zubaydah, is based on having viewed the torture tapes as well as other materials. So this is presumably a number that was once backed up by video evidence.

The same OLC memo passage explains how the CIA might manage to waterboard these men so many times in one month each (though even with these chilling numbers, the CIA’s math doesn’t add up).

…where authorized, it may be used for two “sessions” per day of up to two hours. During a session, water may be applied up to six times for ten seconds or longer (but never more than 40 seconds). In a 24-hour period, a detainee may be subjected to up to twelve minutes of water appliaction. See id. at 42.  Additionally, the waterboard may be used on as many as five days during a 30-day approval period.

So: two two-hour sessions a day, with six applications of the waterboard each = 12 applications in a day. Though to get up to the permitted 12 minutes of waterboarding in a day (with each use of the waterboard limited to 40 seconds), you’d need 18 applications in a day.  Assuming you use the larger 18 applications in one 24-hour period, and do 18 applications on five days within a month, you’ve waterboarded 90 times–still just half of what they did to KSM.

The CIA wants you to believe waterboarding is effective. Yet somehow, it took them 183 applications of the waterboard in a one month period to get what they claimed was cooperation out of KSM.

That doesn’t sound very effective to me.

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General Taguba: Accountability for Torture Does Not Stop at White House Door

Posted by musliminsuffer on April 20, 2009

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General Taguba: Accountability for Torture Does Not Stop at White House Door

by: Andrew Kalloch  |  Visit article original @ Harvard Law Record

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Major General Antonio Taguba, pictured here, is calling for an independent commission to investigate war crimes committed by members of the Bush administration. (Photo: Mary Ellen Mark)

Major General Antonio Taguba called for an independent commission to investigate war crimes committed by senior members of the Bush Administration in remarks in Ames Courtroom on Tuesday, April 14. The event was sponsored by Physicians for Human Rights and the Human Rights Program at Harvard Law School.

Taguba, who was pressured to resign by the Bush Administration in 2007 following the 2004 leak of his report detailing abuses by U.S. armed forces in Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq, declared in the preface of the 2008 Physicians for Human Rights publication “Broken Laws, Broken Lives,” that, “there is no longer any doubt as to whether the [Bush] administration has committed war crimes. The only question that remains to be answered is whether those who ordered the use of torture will be held to account.”

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“On 9/11, I think they hit the wrong building”

Posted by musliminsuffer on April 20, 2009

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“On 9/11, I think they hit the wrong building”

From Washington to San Francisco, tax day “tea parties” bring the right-wing fringe out into the unflattering light of day.

By Mike Madden

Tea Party

Reuters/Jim Young

A woman participates in a Tax Day rally in Lafayette Park in Washington Wednesday.

April 16, 2009 | WASHINGTON — The gathering in Lafayette Square, in honor both of tax day and of a generalized fury at Barack Obama, his budget, the Federal Reserve and whatever else ails the conservative movement, was going just fine, despite the rain. But there’s an old saying in protest organizing: It’s all fun and games until someone tea-bags the White House.

And so it went Wednesday for the most geographically prominent tea party protest of the hundreds held around the nation. At around 2:30 p.m., a little before the rally was supposed to break up, someone threw a box of tea bags over the fence around the executive mansion, and the Secret Service moved in like, well, like they were cornering a bunch of liberal protesters gathered outside of George W. Bush’s White House.

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Herald de Paris: “It’s time for a second look on the 9/11 events”

Posted by musliminsuffer on April 20, 2009

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Herald de Paris: “It’s time for a second look on the 9/11 events”

Submitted by Gareth on Sun, 04/19/2009 – 11:51am

LONDON (Herald de Paris) – “It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.” Quoting Upton Sinclair, professor David Ray Griffin addressed an attentive audience at the City University of London last Tuesday for almost three hours in the first of the ten appointments of his European tour entitled “9/11: Time for a Second Look,” a second and deeper look at the events that eight years ago cost almost 3,000 american citizens their lives, and that were used as the root cause to wage war to Afghanistan first and among the excuses for the invasion of Iraq.

Since 2003, hundreds between scholars, engineers, architects, political and religious leaders, lawyers, medical professionals, pilots, senior military and intelligence officers, firefighters, artists and media professionals from all over the world have joined him in his call for an unflinching investigation over the 9/11 attacks since, he maintains, the explanations provided by the Bush/Cheney administration are inconsistent and false.

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As many as 13 soldier suicides in March

Posted by musliminsuffer on April 20, 2009

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As many as 13 soldier suicides in March

That would bring 2009’s total to 56, Army reports

By Michelle Tan – Staff writer

Posted : Sunday Apr 19, 2009 8:26:29 EDT

As many as 13 soldiers are believed to have killed themselves in March, bringing the number of reported soldier suicides this year to 56, officials announced April 10.

None of the March cases under investigation have been confirmed, but about 90 percent of deaths involved in such investigations typically are ruled to be suicides.

The March total marks a decrease in suicides compared with the first two months of the year.

As many as 24 suicides were reported in January, but on March 4 officials removed one case because it was determined that the soldier was no longer on active duty when he died. Of the 23 remaining cases, 14 are confirmed suicides; nine are pending a determination.

Eight soldiers killed themselves in February, and the deaths of 10 others were still being investigated. Since the Army initially reported its February numbers, two other deaths also have come under investigation as possible suicides.

In all, 56 confirmed and suspected suicides have been reported across the Army since Jan. 1. Of the 56, 22 are confirmed suicides, 34 are pending.

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